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Exit Interview, Stage Right
By Nick Corcodilos |
Exit interviews fascinate me like cockroaches do. An exit interview is the meeting a company's human resources department has with an employee who has
been terminated or who has resigned. Like the Top Ten Stupid Interview
Questions,
exit interviews are the cockroaches of the human resources world: no one
knows why they exist, no one can justify or eliminate them, and they will
likely survive into the third millennium.
While most companies still conduct exit interviews, many human resources
managers tell me they don't bother with them any more. For reasons I'll
outline
in this article, I think employers should be embarrassed to conduct exit
interviews and employees should be smart enough to decline them.
The ostensible objective of the exit interview is to help the company
"improve
the way it does things" so fifty more employees won't quit in the coming
weeks. In other words, If you'll just tell us why you are resigning,
we'll
see to it that no one else ever has to resign for those same reasons. Why,
we'll change our company for the better, and thank you for your candor.
The credibility gap
According to a white paper titled "Exit Interviews" by Nina Drake and Ian Robb from the Society
for Human Resource Management (SHRM), "exit interviews represent a prime
opportunity to gain candid information on employment conditions" within a
company. This is purely wishful thinking, and very naïve at best. Exit interviews invade an employee's privacy and
insult his intelligence. Employers can't possibly believe they're going to
get credible information in such a meeting.
Invading privacy
The decision to quit a job (or the reaction to being fired) is personal and often complex. I believe it is utterly presumptuous of a company to
require an employee to explain it. Unless the employee wants to talk about
it, it's not the company's business. If the company had any right to this
information, it was only while the employee was a committed member of
the team, not after he has decided to leave. Any comments a departing
employee
makes – whether they are positive or negative – will be of questionable
value. Is he being polite to avoid burning a bridge? Or, is he voicing
exaggerated complaints because he's in an emotional turmoil?
An exit interview is insulting
The insult of the exit interview lies in the very questions that are asked. They are useless because it's too late to benefit the employee, and they are pointless
because
most managers never find out what the employee had to say. The SHRM white paper goes on to suggest that, "If you want to
obtain
factual and candid information, confidentiality or at least anonymity is
important
Explaining to the terminating employee that his or her
remarks
will only be used as part of a general consensus [sic] and that no employee
will be identified by name will help reassure the employee."
What is the point of baring your soul in an exit interview if, under the guise of
protecting the employee from retribution by a manager, the human resources department renders your "factual and candid
information" anonymous? (In Death By Lethal Reputation I outline how ineffectual HR practices like
exit interviews can contribute to the demise of an entire company.)
Consider some typical exit interview questions:
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Before deciding to leave, did you explore the possibility of a
transfer?
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Is there something you didn't like about your boss?
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How would you rate our work environment?
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Were you happy with your salary and benefits?
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What did you think about your performance and salary reviews?
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How should we change the way we do things to avoid losing other good
employees?
These questions all have one thing in common: they should have been asked
six months earlier because these issues all combine to determine the quality
of the employee's life at the company. But, no one ever bothered to ask
these
critical questions while they mattered, except perhaps the headhunter who recruited away the candidate.
The ultimate insult lies in the fact that the employee's manager isn't in
the meeting. If a company really wants a heart-to-heart, it should
be a mutually-agreed-upon, meaningful, above-board discussion (no one says
it has to be easy) between people who have worked together, not a cold
debriefing
after the fact by HR. (Maybe there's a bizarre logic to this: the HR department
was the first to interrogate you before you were hired, so it should have
the last crack at you, too.)
HR may argue that gathering such information – even if it is used only in
aggregate, impersonal form – helps a company improve its employee
relations,
but that doesn't justify the risks an exit interview creates for the
employee.
Advice for the employee
If you have resigned your job or been fired, be aware that you are not
required
to answer any questions during an exit interview. I can tell you from
experience
that a firm, polite "No comment" from the employee is usually respected by
the HR rep conducting the interview. Even if you cooperate and answer the
questions, you absolutely should not agree to sign the notes the HR rep has taken
down during your meeting. (Being asked to sign the notes is common.) You
could be signing away your rights.
Risks vs. benefits
If you are a departing employee, an exit interview offers you no significant
benefits, other than perhaps allowing you to "unload" on a seemingly
sympathetic
HR rep. To the contrary, it represents a big risk.
Here's what the SHRM has to say to employers on this point: "Good exit
interview
practices may just help you avoid costly legal action by a disgruntled
employee."
What this means is that whatever you say in that exit interview can be used
against you later in court. That sympathetic HR rep is a potential witness
against you, and her notes are "Exhibit A."
As for confidentiality, the exit interview notes may be kept under lock and
key by the HR rep, at least until she moves on to another job. Imagine a
small company environment where the owner of the business (to whom you used
to report directly) steps in to temporarily cover the HR function. Suddenly,
the one person you never expected would read your comments is reading them
with great interest. Did you say anything that might compromise the quality
of a reference you're expecting?
But, you might argue, you said only nice things. In that case, why tell them
to an HR rep? Go tell your boss, in the privacy of his office, where your
comments will matter and your great relationship can be solidified. Likewise, if you really want to offer candid constructive criticism and
suggestions, do it "off line" and in person – but be fully aware that you're still taking a risk. (My advice: contain your
thoughts until two weeks after you've left. That will give you the benefit of time to consider the effect. If you still feel you want to
share them, do it then.)
The best time for an employee to discuss concerns, dissatisfactions and
suggestions with his employer is while he is a committed employee, not on
the way out the door. There is no upside for an employee in doing an exit
interview, other than having the chance to vent. And the potential
risks are dramatic.
The employer's side
If you are an employer, reconsider the exit interview entirely. Common sense tells us that the emotional stress of parting company (under
even the best circumstances) can stimulate wildly inaccurate and unreliable statements from both parties. If you think
the information the interview provides will be useful, then ask every employee those questions every six months – not
when they resign. The insight you garner can then be used to actually help
the employee and your company, too.
A relationship between employer and employee requires frequent, candid
exchanges
about all the topics normally covered in an exit interview. Regularly
discussing these issues can help you keep your best employees, and
it can help you improve the way you run your company. That's the point,
right?
If you are concerned about maintaining a history of employee-relations
information that you might need in the event of litigation, gather it
responsibly.
Granted, if a company takes exit interviews seriously and actually uses the
information effectively and responsibly, the practice can be useful to the
company. But an exit interview protocol that leaves the employee's manager
out of the picture is irresponsible while giving the appearance of being
"non-threatening." And if HR conducts the meeting, it remains a "no-win"
for the employee who is leaving.
Smart HR managers are coming to recognize that the post hoc debriefing of employees isn't a
valid or reliable way to solve problems. Rather, the very practice of exit interviews is a symptom of larger problems within a company's HR
philosophy.
Exit in respectful silence
As an employee, make sure you understand what an exit interview is, and how your comments might and might not be used, before
you start baring your soul (or placating your employer with politeness).
As an employer, learn to respect a departing employee's privacy and
intelligence.
Don't put him through a wringer just because "that's what we do."
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