Is it unfair to hedge job offers?

Is it unfair to hedge job offers?

Question

Can I hedge job offers? Here is the deal: I got a job offer with company A. I am coming up on the end of the interview process with company B, which I would much prefer to work for. What is the proper way to address this? Tell company B that I have an offer to get it to move faster? Or should I try to push off the company A start date to give B more time? Or, should I just start with company A then, if company B makes a good offer, quit A? I want to be fair.

Nick’s Reply

hedge job offersYou want to be fair? What’s that got to do with the interview schedules of two companies? Fairness doesn’t come into it. (If these employers wanted to be fair, they’d coordinate their interviews for your benefit, right? Hardly. This is business.) If you try to control any company’s interview or hiring schedule you may risk any job offer from them.

Hedge job offers by making choices

You have just one binary choice at this point: To accept or decline the offer from company A.

Don’t let fantasies of fairness cloud reality. You have no other offer, and you don’t know whether you will get one. You can reject A and wait for B. If you want the A offer, then accept it and deal with B when and if they make an offer — and you don’t know whether they will.

Sometimes, you must hedge job offers for the good of your career.

Employers hedge job offers, too

Accepting the offer from A does not mean you must stop talking with B — or stop waiting for B. Do you think employers stop talking to other candidates while they wait on an answer from their first choice? Employers hedge job offers because they know people sometimes change their minds, and they wisely want to keep their options open until a new hire shows up and starts work. This hedging explains many of the “unexplained” delays of corporate hiring decisions.

Likewise, the prudent way to handle your situation is to make one choice at a time and to hedge your bets to protect your options.

Deal with the real choice

To hedge job offers is not unethical or unfair. Dealing with each choice as it comes along is simply good business. Don’t let the uncertain future confuse you about what your present choices really are.

Suppose you reject A so you can wait for B, and then B makes no offer. How would you feel? Is that fair of B? Fairness is not the issue at all.

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How would you deal with staggered job offers? Is it unethical to accept an offer, only to drop it if a better one comes along? Is that unfair? Please share your experiences with us — and the outcomes.

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I expect a low salary offer. Should I even interview?

I expect a low salary offer. Should I even interview?

Question

I have an interview scheduled next week with a leading bank, and I am a very good fit for the role in corporate middle management. Based on conversations I’ve had with people that work at the company and people that have turned down job offers there, I expect a low salary offer. The HR recruiter asked me what salary I expected, and I talked around the question without giving a number, ending with, “I really need to think about that because it depends on multiple factors.” She requested that I get back to her with my number. Since I have the interview scheduled should I wait and let them make the offer (assuming they do)? Or should I preemptively tell her a number that is slightly above what I believe to be fair based on research (not on my opinion of myself)?

Also, is there a way to set the anchor on the high side without sounding like I’m full of myself? Thanks for your help.

Nick’s Reply

low salary offerThe unknown factor is HR’s predisposition toward low salary offers. Even though you’ve been told they make low salary offers, you don’t really know how this HR person will handle the matter. So anything you do (or don’t do) presents a risk. Including doing nothing at all. So I’ll tell you what I’d do — but you must use your judgment and any other information you have at your disposal.

Avoid a low salary offer

I agree you need to set an anchor, but you have already accepted the interview. If you learn during this interview what the job is really all about, you should be ready to quote your desired salary range when your meeting ends. If you need an additional meeting to fully understand the work, I’d ask for a follow-up interview and explain that then you’d be happy to give them a desired range.

How to Say It
“But I can’t do that until I know in more detail what the job entails. Specifically, I’d like to discuss what you would need me to accomplish at milestones of three months, six and 12, and what opportunities would enable me to do the work in a way that adds to your profitability.”

You could also ask them what range they have in their budget for the job. (Fair play, eh?)

Then, once you know what is their business plan for the job, I’d tell them the salary I expect is between $X – $Y, with a range of about 5%. This is a reasonable way to use the anchoring effect to your advantage. I’d add that you’re not playing negotiating games — this is really what you’re looking for, since they asked, and you’re prepared to justify it.

Don’t play the “high-low” game

Now the hard part: You really must be ready to justify your desired range. You must also be ready to tell what the “multiple factors” are. I like to lean on “how I’m going to do this job more profitably than you expected” as a big factor. (Please see Stand Out: How to be the profitable hire.)

To avoid the high-low salary game, I’d keep the X-Y range tight. And I’d be ready to accept $X if they offer it. But I would not go in high just because you expect they will come in low. (That is playing games!) I’d actually give them a range you’d accept, and even say, “If your offer is in this range, I accept it.” Making this kind of preemptive commitment is a very powerful negotiation tool. It establishes your desire to take the job, which is always a concern of an employer. Of course, you must have already satisfied yourself that you really want this job.


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If it’s a low salary offer, be ready to walk

If they come in low, you can easily say, “Well, you asked me, and I told you, and I wasn’t playing negotiating games.” Then you must be ready to walk away — unless they make an honest effort to “meet you in between” that you find acceptable. This puts the burden on them.

If you find they will not work with you on the range, then I think you must conclude that these are not going to be great people to work with. Don’t discount the information you acquire about them through this process — you will have to live with these people a long time. Think carefully about that.

Set an anchor early when you can

You’re wise to think about the anchor effect, but at this point, I think it’s hard to set an anchor that’s higher than what you’d really accept. If avoiding a low salary offer is really possible with an employer, I believe you need to set the anchor much earlier in the process — when you first start talking and before you agree to interview.

As I said, you must use your own best judgment. Every situation is unique, so don’t beat yourself up about handling it perfectly. The scenario — and your salary requirement — will likely change as you get more information about the job and the company.

I wish you the best.

Would you interview for a job if you knew in advance that the offer would very likely be low? How would you handle it? Have you ever been able to negotiate a salary meaningfully higher than an employer offered?

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Will social media beat a singing gorilla to help you land a job?

Will social media beat a singing gorilla to help you land a job?

Question

What do you think of the desperation tactics people are resorting to on LinkedIn to beg others to help them land a job? (I’ve seen offers of cash for job leads!) Does this work? What’s the cleanest way to do this (without looking bad!)?

Nick’s Reply

 land a jobEarly in my Silicon Valley headhunting career, I was passing through an office suite when a singing gorilla appeared. A desperate, unemployed engineer was using a clever tactic to get his resume noticed. He hired a delivery guy dressed as a singing gorilla to deliver a box of pizza to managers he hoped would interview him. Taped atop the box was his resume.

I never learned whether it worked, but that was one very funny gorilla.

Doing tricks to land a job

The purpose of this column is to highlight some of the unbelievable tricks job seekers are playing on themselves so they can pretend someone’s going to find them a job.

What I’d like is your take on these efforts to dress up excuse after clever excuse for how to avoid doing the hard work to find a good job: carefully picking the few right employers and demonstrating to them how you’ll do the job profitably if they hire you.

Desperation Road

Frustrated, frazzled job seekers are keenly aware that what they’re doing to find their next job is not very effective. In fact, what they experience is captured in a complaint attributed to Lewis Carroll: “The hurrier I go, the behinder I get.”

This website is abundant with readers’ stories of endless failures in their job searches. The common refrain is, “I keep applying to more and more jobs, but I can’t get hired.”

That’s why they come here. Because we lay bare the foibles of our broken employment system. We all know that this system is almost purely reliant on staggering quantities of job listings and accompanying fire-hose-style job applications. Employers have created a Sisyphean digital road to All The Jobs that people race along faster and harder — only to find at the end of it a stinking dump waiting to swallow them up and spit them back out.

And in utter desperation they have to run that road again and again and again, because it seems there’s no choice.

Gone down the wrong road

The answer to this hamster-on-a-treadmill quandary is found in a Turkish saying: “No matter how far you have gone down the wrong road, turn back.”

Job seekers just don’t want to turn back. They believe they’ve invested too much to stop now. But that Turkish wisdom is the best advice they’ll ever get.

Rather than question their painfully held belief that some process, some expert, some database or some A .I. is going to help them land a job, they keep running the same road, but each time dressed in some new kind of gorilla suit they’ve been told will make a difference.

They know they’re on the wrong job-hunting road but they won’t turn back.

“Weirdly creative” tactics

A recent Washington Post column reports that “Desperate for jobs, people try new social media tactics to stand out”. The article says “job seekers are getting weirdly creative to land their next jobs.”

They’re not deploying singing gorillas, but they’ve learned to beg like a dog on social media. What we’re seeing more and more is that these social media tricks aren’t working well.

At least the singing gorilla was amusing.

I recommend you read the entire WaPo article because I think it will help you keep your eye on the real objective — a new job — no matter what anyone else is doing. Gorilla tactics (and cash offers for job leads) may seem clever. They’re not. I won’t take up space here suggesting better alternatives because you’ll find them throughout Ask The Headhunter. Let’s take a hard look at how far off the path job seekers have gone. The following real-life stories about (NOT) getting a job are from the Washington Post link above.

A good signal?

One job seeker boasts he’s got a “whatever-it-takes mentality.”

He’s offering $3,000 on LinkedIn to anyone that finds him a job, and he hopes this is “…a good signal for a potential employer that I’m proactive, and I’m trying to solve this problem in a creative way.” If I were his potential employer, here’s my first interview question: “Is paying somebody to do your work a signal that you can do this job for me?”

How’s it working for him? He’s got no job offers but seems excited about thinking up more offers he can make to entice others to find him a job.

The recruiter that can’t land a job

A woman uses her LinkedIn page to recruit friends and contacts to find her a job. She lists nine examples of how good she would be at the job she wants, if only somebody could find it and bring it to her.

Her expertise? She’s an “HR-minded recruiter.” She’s got 15 years of experience recruiting, but “she said she’s only landed two interviews out of hundreds of job applications.” No job offers.

Revealing on LinkedIn that you can’t do for yourself what you want a paycheck to do for an employer. Say what?!”

#Desperate to work

A young guy trying to break into cybersecurity thought he’d found a great alternative to actually pursuing jobs he wants. He added a popular “tag” to his LinkedIn profile: #OpenToWork. It didn’t work.

Then he found a better tag: #Desperate. He says that tag “blew up way bigger than I thought…[it] got about half a million views” and brought him over 1,600 followers. He’s applied to 4,500 jobs.

“But he didn’t hear from hiring managers.” He asks his LinkedIn network: “Why is it so hard to get a job?”

(The #Desperate tag seems quite popular. The WaPo reports that another job seeker “still displays it after two months, eight interviews and 500 applications.” She’s had no job offers.)

Honestly waiting to land a job

Then there’s the guy who says he’s going to lose his house if he doesn’t land a job within a month. He’s sharing his plight with his LinkedIn network as honestly as possible because he’s been “feeling invisible after hundreds of applications.” He feels that the more honest he is on his profile, the better. “I just need someone to see this that has an opening that can help me save my house.”

He’s gotten “at least 3,000 comments and messages” and two interviews because, he believes, he’s being so open and honest. But he’s gotten no job.

How much is that singing gorilla?

I’ll say what the WaPo article doesn’t bother to say.

Cut the crap, folks! The problem is that way too many job seekers have learned to avoid actually picking the right employers and actively pursuing jobs they can do to improve a company’s business. (How to do this is really not so mysterious.)

Social media sites have provided people with the company of millions of other job seekers who are “crafting” clever marketing ploys to get other social media users — and a plethora of digital go-fers — to find them a job. This is not networking. It’s wishful thinking. Read that WaPo article carefully. Not one of the clever job seekers in the story reported they found a job.

Maybe better social media tricks could get someone to bring you a new job. Or you could just hire a singing gorilla.

What tricks have you seen job seekers do to get someone else to find them a job? Have gorilla-like social media tactics really become a thing? Do any of the examples of job-hunting tactics described seem useful to you?

NOTE: The Washington Post is a subscription-based news outlet. I cannot guarantee my link to it will work.

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